Occidental College transcripts provides concrete evidence to annul Obama presidency.

Registration transcript states ~ Name: Barry Soetoro - Religion: Islam - Nationality: Indonesian

The smoking gun evidence that annuls Obama’s presidency is Obama’s college transcripts regarding his application for and receiving of foreign student aid.  Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript from Occidental College shows that Obama (Barry Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship (scholarship) for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program – an international educational exchange program sponsored by the U.S. government.  Grants are available for U.S. citizens to go abroad and for non-U.S. citizens with no U.S. permanent residence to come to the U.S.  To qualify, for the non-US citizen scholarship to study in the U.S., a student applicant must claim and provide proof of foreign citizenship. This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking.  The United States Constitution requires that Presidents (and Vice Presidents) of the United States be natural born citizens of the United States.

“No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”

Obama hasn’t met and doesn’t meet the basic qualifications for the presidency – must be natural born citizen.

Obama has been named in dozens of civil lawsuits alleging he is not eligible to be president, with many filing a criminal complaint alleging the commander-in-chief is a fraud.

The filed indictments disputes Obama’s eligibility to be president under the U.S. Constitution which requires that eligible candidates for the United States presidency be “natural born” citizens.

U.S. soldiers including a general refuse to recognize Obama as their Commander in Chief since he is not a U.S. citizen. The soldiers have challenged Obama’s legitimacy by filing federal lawsuits against Obama.

On such soldier was U.S. Army Maj. Stefan Frederick Cook who was given orders to deploy to Afghanistan. Cook refused to deploy stating that he shouldn’t have to go because Obama is not a U.S. citizen and therefore not legally President and Commander in Chief.  The military revoked the orders with no reason given.  Speculation is that Obama would rather not see this thing go to court before a judge!

“In the 20-page document — filed with the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia — the California-based Taitz asks the court to consider granting his client’s request based upon Cook’s belief that Obama is not a natural-born citizen of the United States and is therefore ineligible to serve as commander-in-chief of the U.S. Armed Forces,” the Ledger-Enquirer reported.

Cook “would be acting in violation of international law by engaging in military actions outside the United States under this President’s command. … simultaneously subjecting himself to possible prosecution as a war criminal by the faithful execution of these duties,” Taitz stated.

Obama says he was born in Hawaii in 1961, just two years after it became a state.

There are many lawsuits and claims that Barack Obama was never eligible to be president because he wasn’t born in the United States. And there is credible evidence that suggests he is not legally eligible to serve as President of the United States.

Newspaper print of LA Times - Occidental recalls 'Barry' Obama

Numerous official government documents records Obama being legally registered as Barry Soetoro. School registries shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name Barry Soetoro. During his Occidental College days he is registered as Barry Soetoro. An entry in the journal of the California assembly in reference to grants given to foreign exchange students (this official government document lists Obama as a foreigner not a US citizen. A US citizen wouldn’t qualify for foreign exchange student funding) states Obama as Barry Soetoro from Indonesia.

The first name of a child is always the same from birth. If throughout his childhood Obama went by the first name of Barry then legally his birth name would have to be Barry. In order to register any child for school an official birth certificate must be presented. To receive a government grant proof of citizenship and birth must also be submitted. All of the evidence is stating that Barack Obama’s legal first name is Barry not Barrack.

A biography of Obama’s Occidental College days states that when Obama was 18-19 he attended school as BARRY SOETORO. And it wasn’t until he met a girl by the name of Regina that Obama started using the name Barack.  Regina was the first to start calling him Barack.  There seems to be no record of Obama legally changing his first name from Barry to Barack.

While being sworn in as an attorney in the State of Illinois, Mr Obama had to provide his personal information under oath. He was asked, if he had any other names, he responded none. In reality, he used the name Barry Soetoro in an entry in the journal of the California assembly in reference to grants given to foreign exchange students. Mr. Soetoro/Obama clearly defrauded the State Bar of Illinois and perjured himself while concealing his identity. Anybody else would’ve been disbarred for this and the matter would’ve been forwarded to the district attorney for prosecution for perjury and fraud, however nothing was done to Mr. Obama. More importantly, why did he conceal his identity?

If Obama didn’t legally have his name changed from Barry to Barack then the birth certificate he passed to Congress is a fake, a forgery.  If his name was registered as Barry Soetoro even though Obama claims his real name is Barack Obama then Obama defrauded the state of California in order to receive college funding.  Obama knowingly presented a false document to the state wherein he claimed to be a foreign student in order to illegally acquire financial aid.

U.S. Code

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47—FRAUD AND FALSE STATEMENTS

(f) Whoever knowingly makes any false statement or claim that he is a citizen of the United States in order to register to vote or to vote in any Federal, State, or local election (including an initiative, recall, or referendum)—

This evidence is sufficient to annul the presidency of Obama.   Official Occidental College transcripts registered with the state declares that Obama is an impostor.

 JEFF RENSE AND TOM FIFE INTERVIEW: OBAMA A RISING STAR

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The Official C.I.A. Columbia Obama Sedition And Treason Trial Transcript

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The C.I.A. Columbia, Obama Sedition and Treason Trial Transcript.

This historic document is the eternal fruit of the labor and sacrifice of some of America’s greatest patriots.

This transcript contains the unabridged truth spoken and witnessed by fellow Americans who did so with their lives and liberties under the threat of death.

You will find contained herein a clear portrait of the most insidious, mysterious and feared man in the history of our Republic.

Please use and view this document as a declaration of liberty from the failure of our government to protect and defend the people called Americans, and the hallowed words of the U.S. Constitution.

God anoint and save this document. 
God save and bless America

In His Royal Service,
Dr. James David Manning

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Wednesday, July 21, 2010

Globe Magazine: Obama African Birth Certificate! Barack Obama's presidency is illegal!

OBAMARELEASE YOURRECORDS ON 8:51 PM

Not sure why Globe is just now running this story.  The Obama Kenyan Registration of Birth that is now running on the front page of Globe appears to be the one Attorney Orly Taitz released last year.  It is important to note that when Atty Taitz first posted that online the Obot's quickly photoshopped one of their own with false info to put disinformation out that it was fake.  It must also be noted that no Court or any Legal Body deemed that document or the Lucas Smith document real or fake.

Posted below the Globe snippet is the purported 'Coast Province Certified Copy of Registration of Birth' for Barack Obama which was obtained by Attorney Taitz.  Below that is the purported Kenyan Certificate of Birth obtained by Lucas Smith. [ 7/25 - Birther Report Update - FYI, more Obama/Kenya info posted below the Obama COLB.  Much of it is what is reported in the current Globe. ]


Via the Globe; - Obama African Birth Certificate! -

Barack Obama's presidency is illegal! That's what political insiders are saying after a shocking birth certificate from a hospital in Kenya reveals America's Commander-in-Chief was born in Africa! GLOBE has all the explosive details you can't afford to miss! Source; http://www.globemagazine.com/story/529

 NTEB| June 22, 2010 | 8:32

Update--Pastor Manning to deliver Obama guilty verdict to federal and state officials

The Reverend Dr. James Manning, Pastor of the ATLAH Worldwide Ministries Church in Harlem, New York, has started the process of delivering the results of his trial of Barack Obama to federal, state, and local officials.

At the trial held early this month, evidence was presented showing that most of what has been told to the public about Barack Obama and his background is false, or at the very least subject to serious questions.

(AP Photo/Evan Vucci).

Witnesses stated under oath that Obama never attended Columbia University as he claimed--and as the University claims.  Witnesses also testified that Obama has used and still uses bogus Social Security numbers.

The list of crimes goes on, and at the end of the proceedings a jury found Obama guilty on all counts.

The question raised at the time of the verdict was, will this decision carry the weight of law?  At the time the answer was unclear due to the fact that the trial was not commissioned nor authorized by a recognized legal entity at the local, state, or federal levels.

To his credit, Dr. Manning maintains that under the provisions of the U.S. Constitution, citizen trials are allowed and even have the weight of case law and precedent.

The difficulty arises when attempts are made to enforce the verdicts rendered in such trials.  Only the court system can decide if such a trial carries the weight of recognized law and thus, verify and confirm the validity of the verdict.  This would allow enforcement.

To that end, Pastor Manning states the following:

Thus, Manning has taken the first steps necessary to get the verdict rendered by the jury recognized by the U.S. legal system--the presenting of all of the evidence entered into the record at the trial to local, state, and federal authorities.

Should those authorities determine that the evidence presented at the trial in Harlem meets the standard for further investigation, then it is entirely possible that the judicial system could determine that crimes, indeed, have been committed.

However, a major hurdle that the process must jump is the fact that the officials who would determine whether or not to proceed to the next level are Obama-friendly.  The deck is stacked.

And that means that it is likely that no matter what conclusive evidence is presented to them, they will continue to lend their protection to Barack Obama.

This, of course, would be a travesty of justice.  At the very least the evidence presented at the Manning trial needs an unbiased consideration.

CIA COLUMBIA OBAMA TRIAL

VERDICT: GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!!!       Recorded May 21, 2010

LONG LEGGED MACK DADDY

Hon. James David Manning says Barack Hussein "The Long Legged Mack Daddy" Obama was a C.I.A operative who used Columbia University as a cover to go to Pakistan in 1981 when the CIA and the Mujahideen worked together against the Soviet Invasion. Obama supplied arms, logistics, and money using his Muslim background.

Guilty Verdict Handed Down By Obama/ Columbia Jury

Obama Found Guilty, but will the verdict be recognized?

By Steve Cooper

The Conservative Monster.com

The past few days have been very intense on all of us that took part in this very interesting event. The jury deliberated for over 3 hours until they came up with the verdict. The defendants were found guilty on all charges and there were so many, but I will basically give you all a quick review.

Mail fraud, wire fraud, Obstruction of Justice and Sedition were the main charges. I would have found Columbia University not guilty of any charges that involved them knowingly undermining the country. I just do not think they knew back in 1981 that they were taking part in a conspiracy to undermine the Government. Their silence about Obama attending Columbia University during his campaign does not meet that level of conspiracy in my opinion. I do not think that was proven, but they can appeal it if they like

Day 5
Witness Miki Booth

Miki Booth is a Hawaiian born native that is running for congress in Oklahoma, District 2. Booth held up birth certificates that were real long form birth certificates from Hawaii. She then explained the difference between a Certificate of Live Birth and a Certification of Live Birth (what Obama posted on Factcheck.org).

Booth testified that anyone could get a Certification of Live Birth, it does not prove ANYTHING. Then she discussed the birth announcements and she stated that anyone could put that in the paper if they want to notify the town about a new baby in the family.

Wayne Allyn Root

Manning discussed his phone call with Wayne Allyn Root and about the article that Root posted on the Internet . many libertarians attacked Root for even considering to testify at this trial. Also, many Columbia University Alumni contacted him as well. What are they afraid of? Root said he never saw or heard of any student named Barack Obama at Columbia University at that time that Obama claims he attended the school. Root had the same major as Barry, but still never heard of him.

Manning submitted the article as evidence.

Next, Manning described a letter that he got from a former KGB agent that was also a double agent with the CIA. The informant Mike, stated that Obama worked with the CIA for 4 years (1981-1985) in Pakistan assisting the Mujahadeen fighters during the Soviet-Afghan war.

Manning then stated that factions of the CIA and the KGB are working together to install a socialist government and that Bill Clinton, Leon Panetta, Rahm Emanuel and Obama are all in on it. This means that there has been a conspiracy for at least the past 20 years to create a super spy agency. This spy agency would blackmail and assassinate the opposition, the Republicans were targets.

This was called “The Professional System”. A KGB like security force that will undermine freedom and elections in the United States, to shove this nation into a socialist state.

This KGB agent claimed that the CIA was more interested in American citizens, rather than foreign enemies. Basically he is saying that they have been compromised by the enemy.

Manning – They put out a hit on me

Pastor Manning then stated that he was informed by a disgruntled CIA agent that a hit was put on his head by the CIA. This was by an anonymous caller and it was just two days after the CIA, Homeland Security and the NYPD visited Manning’s church. Manning claims that the hit was called off when the assassin refused to accept the order to kill Pastor Manning. Pastor Manning is calling for the Justice Department to investigate this alleged conspiracy to assassinate him.

Manning then claimed that the CIA Operative told him to dig into Columbia University rather than the birth certificate issue, because it was clear that Obama never attended Columbia University, because he was working with the CIA in Pakistan at the time that he was allegedly attending the University.

Pastor Manning then stated that “Columbia University did not cover their tracks well”. Then he commented “If John McCain is not qualified, I know for sure that Barack Hussein Obama is not qualified for the office either.”

Obama said that his father was Kenyan in his book and the debate ends right there, he is NOT a natural born citizen.

Manning also stated that Obama traveled to Pakistan with a Kenyan Passport, not a Indonesian passport that has been speculated the past 22 months.

Obama’s records are not sealed by the courts, they are sealed by the CIA.

Manning then shouted, “What are you hiding Mr. Obama? The people need to ask this question. Only criminals hide themselves and Obama is the most notorious criminal that ever walked the earth.”

Then Manning solemnly said, “My life was challenged by MY GOVERNMENT. Obama is a Muslim and the Church failed this nation to allow this to take place.”

Pastor Manning then told the jury “If a guilty verdict is rendered today, it will rock the world. You will save this nation, save my life and the lives of YOUR CHILDREN. Every dollar that Obama has collected was under fraudulent pretenses, because he is not a natural born citizen.

The Verdict

I am sure that Pastor Manning will release an official copy in the near future of all of the charges and the verdict. The church erupted with applause and cheers after the final guilty verdict was announced. Pastor Manning was very excited and he did an excellent job with this entire trial, aided by his assistant Anthony Jones (an attorney).

Manning will most likely submit all of the evidence and the verdict to the US Attorney General and demand that they investigate, validate the decision by the jury and move forward with possible arrests. I do agree that fraud was committed, Manning proved that to the entire audience and the jury.

Barack Obama’s Secret Past: Tip of the Iceberg Surfaces

Guilty verdict in Obama trial: more questions than answers

The trial, however, unveils many more questions than it provides answers.

(AP Photo/Pablo Martinez Monsivais).

But first, a few observations are in order about the nature of this event.

Obviously the event was a 'public' rather than a 'court' trial.  No court sanctioned it.  The legality of public trials apart from court sanction has not been established.  While the Constitution does, indeed, maintain that the ultimate power of government rests with 'we, the people,' and while a case can be made that under the 10th amendment the people, acting under the auspices of local and state authorities, can engage in certain acts of self-governance apart from the sanction and control of the federal government, it has not been established that any local entity in Harlem granted state or local legal status to the trial.

In that sense the trial and the verdict have no binding legal authority.

However, should a legal authority, a court, a law enforcement agency, an Attorney-General either at the state or national level, decide that the evidence presented at the Manning trial is overwhelming enough to launch a full investigation, then ultimately the results of the trial could carry the full weight of legal authority.

Dr. Manning has stated that he intends to present the evidence and the verdict to U.S. Attorney-General Eric Holder.  At that point the ball will be in the 'court' of the Department of Justice.  If no action is taken on the verdict, then there is not much further that can be done.

But if action is taken and an official investigation ensues, then perhaps the goal of this event will have been met.  The problem is that under the present circumstances it is next to impossible for that to happen.  Holder is Obama's choice and Congress is held in the grip of Obama's Party.  End of story.

Serious, unanswered questions remain, however--questions that the trial did an excellent job of bringing to the surface.

These questions are as follows:

Why didn't Barack Obama have a Social Security Number issued in his name when he was first employed as a 14-year-old in Hawaii?  Why was there such a long delay after his first job before an application was made for a Social Security Number?  And why was he given a Connecticut Social Security Number previously used by a man born in the late 1800s, given that Obama never lived in Connecticut to begin with?

The first instance of Obama's use of the Connecticut number was when he started to work as a Community Organizer in Chicago--a very long way from Connecticut.

Further, why was Obama given a degree from Columbia University when no one in Harlem ever remembers him being there, and although witnesses have testified that he was never a student on campus?  And the address given by Obama as the one that he used while a student in Harlem does not exist.

But perhaps the most telling question of all is, why did Obama use a Kenyan passport to travel to Pakistan in 1981?  Wouldn't a U.S. citizen normally be given an American passport?  It seems to be  standard procedure--and the law--that passports are given only to citizens of the country in which they reside.

And what has the CIA got to do with all of this mess?

The fact is we may never know for sure unless somebody in authority in the government decides to investigate and discover the answers.

But one thing is for sure--Obama is an enigma, a shadow, a persona created out of the murky circumstances of his past, which is being carefully hidden.  Why would it even need to be hidden?

These questions are disturbing to anyone who takes our Constitution and our way of life seriously.  Our form of government, as delineated in the Constitution, is dependent upon the honesty and transparency of those who hold public office.  And if a fraud is elected, a charlatan, a person who presents himself as something he is not, then the entire American system of government is in grave danger.

Better to err on the side of utmost caution than to glibly dismiss all of these questions as 'mere coincidences.'  Coincidences do happen, no doubt, but this many and this often--all revolving around one man?

The odds are that the country is in grave danger.

Live from the Obama trial: Alex Pareene in Harlem

Alex Pareene

Outside ATLAH World Ministries Church in Harlem.

(Alex Pareene is in Harlem for the "trial" of President Obama at James David Manning's ATLAH World Ministries Church. He'll be updating this post all day with pictures, description and video from the festivities.)
Note: Video of a confrontation between the church's pro-Obama neighbors and the assembled birthers is below.

5:00 pm:  I'm done with the day's events. For now, here are my notes from 3 pm on, featuring the rest of jury selection and the Reverend Manning's opening statement. Check back later for a full report. (And scroll down for video of the pre-trial skirmish outside the church between neighborhood residents and trial attendees.)

4:00 pm Finally, Manning reveals why we're not trying Obama for treason. He told "some Tea Party people" a while back that they should go after Obama's citizenship instead of his policies. Because if they convicted him of treason, they would get to execute him! This didn't go over well. Manning claims the CIA visited his church. So he wants to make it clear: he will not attempt to execute Obama at the conclusion of the trial. (He does still think Obama should be hanged, though.)

3:45 pm Manning asks permission to make his opening statement before the jury is sworn in. He tells us about how George Washington and John Jay invented the natural-born citizen clause, just in case of a situation like this one. "This is not about racism. It just happens that Mr. Obama happens to be alleged to be black. This is about the constitution." If we let one guy violate the constitution, everyone will want to! Also, an allegorical explanation for attacking Obama's citizenship instead of his policies: If you know a man is guilty of rape, but you challenge him on "what kind of coffee he drinks," that is "psychologically imbalanced." Then Manning brought up the Illuminati. Also: Howard Dean, the Clintons.

Also: McCain lost the election on purpose, to allow Obama to "waltz into the White House." (Man next to me, softly: "Oh my god.") Manning: "We're not talking about whether or not Obama stole a car!"

3:30 pm One juror wants to know why we're not going to prosecute Obama for treason and sedition. Manning: "To prove treason would not be the most difficult thing in this trial" but he is convinced that the American people will uphold the results of this trial, and they will demand Obama's imprisonment. If he's convicted of treason, the American people will demand his death. "And a number of people, not that I'm one of them, are opposed to capital punishment." This is an odd and rambling answer, but basically the standard of proof would be higher if they were arguing a capital case, and also the American people might be uncomfortable executing an American president.

65 people registered to be jurors. At the end of the day, there were 13 people sitting on the jury. They will be sworn in first thing tomorrow, but not by Unger -- he will miss tomorrow's proceedings in order to observe the Sabbath. Manning's church observes the Sabbath on Saturday as well, but their worship will be held at 116th and Broadway, outside Columbia.

3:35 pm There are at least five LaRouche followers sitting near me. The next juror is a Deacon. "I have been to the Waco Memorial 16 years in a row. So the government knows me, they have a file on me." This leads Manning into an odd question about whether or not the media might characterize Manning as a David Koresh-style "runaway preacher" whose followers "deserve to be killed."

One important fact I learned: when Barack Obama was supposedly attending Columbia, he was actually in the CIA!

3:20 pm The next juror works "in a prestigious golf club in Toronto." (That's one German, one Canadian, and two Hungarians on the jury.) She is the bartender. Then there is Dave, a former mayor of a small town in New Mexico. He no longer seeks higher office, though, because the consultants he once hired in preparation for a run told him "I had to be something other than what I was." Next: Benji. Manning: "Do you believe there is a witch hunt for Obama because he is black?" Benhi: "I believe there is a witch hunt for the truth." Benji was once registered as a "Dumbocrat" but he voted for Ron Paul.

Manning: "Do you believe that Mr. Obama is simply a puppet?"

3:15 pm Some of the jurors seemed to be unemployed. "I'm in transition from one job to another," one said, though he recently worked in the solar power industry. "Is that green energy," Manning asked him. "Yes, it is," the juror answered.

3:10 pm Manning, to a nervous-seeming woman in thick-framed glasses: "I think we need to inform everyone at the outset that you are a member of this church. I am your pastor." Ok! Then, more disclosures: "You are able to trace your lineage all the way back to the Mayflower." Always important in a potential juror. And: "I have been informed that your lineage also connects you to Barack Obama."

Great moments in impartial jury selection: "Kelly, I'm your pastor," the prosecuting attorney says. "Do you believe that you can be open and fair?" Of course she does! (She is a registered Democrat.)

Kelly has two theories about why Barack Obama's records have all been sealed: they're hiding something, or "they're creating chaos."

3:00 pm A Dr. Kelso was unable to attend today, but she really wants to be on the jury, Manning tells Judge Unger. That seems to be fine with Unger. No one will actually be sworn in until tomorrow anyway.

2:49 pm: Phone dying so I'm going to keep updates light until I find a place to plug in. Still selecting jury. Last guy is not registered to vote but likes Ron Paul.

2:40 pm: I think the current prospective juror said she wrote a thesis that used quantum physics to prove that Jesus Christ could have been incarnate.

2:33 pm: Lotta questioning of whether jurors are afraid for their well-being if they find him guilty.

2:21 pm: Jury selection is taking a while! Manning asks one juror if anyone from the Democratic Party, the CIA, or Homeland Security asked him to act as a disruptive agent or to report on the trial.

Now the world's oldest man is telling us the story of his life. He designed nuclear plants? When he first came to the U.S. from Hungary.

Manning is asking everyone variations on "if the evidence warranted it, could you vote not guilty?" The first guys weren't able to say it, but now everyone's playing along.

2:05 pm: The judge is Bob Unger. (Apparently, he's running for the Republican congressional nomination in New York's 5th District, which is currently represented by Democrat Gary Ackerman.) Jury selection! First juror isn't playing along with Manning's attempt to make him say he hasn't already made up his mind on the charges. He is sure Obama is guilty.

"So you think he is guilty?" Manning asks

Juror finally says he could be "fair" but he is unwilling to say he could ever find Obama not guilty. Juror is a registered Republican. This will take forever.

1:57 pm: Charges of treason and espionage (the death penalty ones) are all "delineated," to make it easier for the jury to reach a verdict, they say. Manning is now asking the people registered as jurors to come forward for jury selection.

1:49 pm: More charges! Count 8 is conspiracy to obstruct justice. Count 9 is exciting: espionage!

Count 10 is also espionage, this time against Columbia. Count 11 is  espionage, too! Obama will be sentenced to death if it is shown that he aided a foreign state in identifying a US spy or nuclear secrets.

Count 12 is against Columbia: conspiracy to commit espionage; Count 13: disclosure of classified material; Count 14: conspiracy to disclose classified info.

Count 15 is great: government seals unlawfully used.

Count 16: conspiracy to violate 18 U.S.C.

Count 17: violation of New York education law (buying a diploma). Obama was NEVER present on Columbia grounds, according to the indictment! Count 18 is same against Columbia.

1:37 pm: Trial underway! Count 1: treason; Count 2, against Columbia: treason; Count 3, againt Obama: mail fraud and swindles; Count 4, against Columbia: conspiracy to commit mail fraud; Count 5: fraud by wire, radio, or television; Count 6: conspiracy to commit wire fraud; Count 7, against Columbia: obstruction of justice.

Judge Bob something. Will try to get his name again. White guy, with a robe and everything.

1:15 pm: I'm not supposed to take pictures but this is from the stairway to the church basement, where there's a school (creepy) and the kitchen. I dunno what this is about. The lasagna was delicious. Only other press here is a German newspaper reporter. A British man who lives in the neighborhood named Nick is waiting outside bugging people. He says Manning has multiple wives.

12:45 pm: This is Pamela Light, from Long Island. She is an Alex Jones fan.

12:27 pm: Oh my god, as soon as we all sit down, he says we're breaking for lunch. Trial will begin at 1:15.

11:55 am: Tensions are flaring as pro-Obama neighbors decide to confront trial attendees, who are still waiting outside.

UPDATE: Video of most of the exchange, between neighborhood resident Helen, the assembled birthers, and the neighborhood counterprotest.

The clash breaks out when a neighborhood woman named Helen grows tired of the antics of Anthony Tolda, a trial attendee who is also running against Democratic Rep. Steve Israel as Constitution Party's candidate in a district on Long Island. As his fellow trial attendees are being photographed, Tolda instructs them to "say 'treason.'"

Helen shouts at Tolda for a while, calling him and his fellow ralliers racists. Other neighborhood people began chanting "slave-owners." Helen says to her friend, mockingly, "look at that Tea Party person." More people from the neighborhood begin shouting. Trial attendees charge that they were "sent by ACORN."

A female cop says to a trial-goer, "You in Harlem? They love Obama here."  She seems amused by the whole thing.

The church sign seems to be what's setting people off. It's actually been up for two years.

I'm getting in shortly. Security is nuts. Metal detector, no cameras allowed. Now there's a woman trying to jump in line. She's "registered for this trial" and "works in the courts." A man asks, "What do you do in the courts?" 

"I defend people."

"So you're a lawyer?"

"Call it what you like."

I talk to a 90-year-old woman who attends services here because Pastor Manning's voice told her to turn the TV to his program one day. She began attending when he said he'd observe the proper sabbath.

Now the larouche people are here talking about Glass-Steagall. No cameras allowed in the church! I'll take notes. I'm finally in.

(Ed. -- Yes, Alex has been shooting video. We won't be able to get it up until after he leaves the church, though.)

 

Dr. Manning - We Have Proof Of Obama's Ineligibility

 Jury Trial May 14-19 To Draw World Attention
By Sharon Rondeau
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Dr. James David Manning, who will be conducting a jury trial to hear charges against Obama next month   (Apr. 27, 2010) -- Today The Post & Email welcomed back Dr. James David Manning, Ph.D., to speak about the upcoming Columbia University Treason and Sedition Trial which he is conducting in Harlem, NY, from May 14-19, 2010. Dr. Manning reports that he has documented evidence that Barack Hussein Obama II is not a "natural born Citizen" as required by the U.S. Constitution to be President of the United States, and that Obama also did not attend Columbia University from 1981-83 as Obama has claimed.     MRS. RONDEAU: In your most recent video, you stated that a highly-placed government official will be testifying at the trial. How did you get him to agree to testify, and will he be there in person or submitting something written? DR. MANNING: Right now, we are anticipating at least two government officials will testify. One will be through statements that will be uttered that will be documented, and the other will be a physical presentation where he will actually take the stand.     MRS. RONDEAU: And are they in government now or were they past employees of the federal government? DR. MANNING: One is in government now, and one is a past employee.     MRS. RONDEAU: How did you reach out to them and when? DR. MANNING: Actually, one reached out to me and the other became a matter of my investigation discovery.     MRS. RONDEAU: How long has the investigation lasted?   DR. MANNING: I have been following the Obama ineligibility issue from 2007, quite frankly, but more emphatically since the election on November 4, 2008. That is when I began observing the issue of ineligibility more closely. I have been on this matter for a couple of years now.     MRS. RONDEAU: How long have you had a formal investigation going on? DR. MANNING: Six months or so.     MRS. RONDEAU: I know that the trial will take place May 14-19. You've also mentioned a <http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=7063>march around Columbia University. Does that coincide with those dates, or will that be at a separate time? DR. MANNING: The two are synonymous.     MRS. RONDEAU: Do you have any other key witnesses coming? DR. MANNING: I have some very interesting witnesses that I have subpoenaed such that if they show up, it will be explosive. If they don't show up, we're going to have them testify based on previous statements they have made, carefully observing the rules of evidence to enter those statements into evidence. Having said that, I have subpoenaed George Stephanopoulos, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Condolezza Rice; I have subpoenaed Michael Sovern, the President of Columbia University at the hour when the breach and the infractions took place; and I have subpoenaed Rod Blagojevich, whom I think is integral to a number of things that went on with the surrender of Barack Obama's law license back in the spring of 2008 when Blagojevich was still governor; I want to talk to him about that. I've subpoenaed all of the faculty that were a part of the Political Science program during the years that Obama would have been a student at Columbia University.   More recently, I have subpoenaed Louis Farrakhan and Jesse Jackson mainly because they were in Chicago in an eminent way during the years that Obama was an alleged community organizer. Jesse Jackson was running PUSH and the Rainbow Coalition, and Louis Farrakhan was eminent in forming the Million Man March, and Obama was allegedly a community organizer during a stretch of years. I want to know what their relationship was and why they did not know him until he rolled into the Senate seat in Illinois some years later. More specifically, the tenor of Chicago needs to be outlined by those two leaders. I have also subpoenaed James Cone, who is a professor and the founder of the whole idea of Black Theology. He wrote a very explosive book in the early '80s outlining black theology. He was the mentor of Jeremiah Wright, who was Obama's pastor for 20 years. Jeremiah Wright has developed his theology out of James Cone's Black Theology; all the tenets which Wright preaches are based on Cone's philosophical, religious and cultural outline. I've subpoenaed him for two reasons. One is that Dr. James Cone was an eminent professor at the Union Theological Seminary, which had a very close relationship with Columbia University. During the years that Obama would have studied at Columbia, James Cone was right across the street as the most eminent black theologian in 1979-81. Everyone on the planet was talking about James Cone then. I want to ask James Cone this one question: Why is it that he and Obama never knew each other with Obama being a black person searching for his roots, and James Cone right there with everyone wanting an interview with him. Why didn't Obama take any classes with him? The Union Theological Seminary and Columbia University were connected.     MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think it's significant that they apparently never met? DR. MANNING: I think it's telling beyond belief that if Obama was indeed, in his own words, "searching for his roots," if James Cone was teaching in the school Obama attended, why didn't they know each other?     MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think perhaps they met or had dealings with each other and neither one will admit it? DR. MANNING: Well, let's find out. If they concealed the information, why? I have a hunch that they did not; in fact, I know that they didn't, because James Cone was my professor as well during those years. Perhaps they had lunch; I doubt it, but if they did, why did they conceal it, and if they didn't, there is no way that Obama could have been at Columbia and not have known James Cone. And also, James Cone and Cornell West were both professors from 1979 to 1985 at Union Theological Seminary, which had a close relationship with Columbia University. Both were my professors during those years. Not only do I want to know why Obama did not know James Cone; I want to know why he didn't know Cornell West. At the time, these two men were perhaps the two most important black men on the planet, and for Obama not to have had any contact with them, or to mention them in any of his writings or speeches, leaves a big question mark, and I want to know why. I've subpoenaed those four men to come to testify; now whether they come or not remains to be seen.     MRS. RONDEAU: Is there a penalty if anyone does not honor your subpoena? DR. MANNING: The Tenth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution gives us the absolute, mandated right to call for a trial with a jury of we the people sanctioned by the Constitution if we discover that the courts or government officials are not executing their duties and allowing the people due process. Thusly, the Constitution empowers our courts. We, at times, will present evidence that crimes have taken place. At that point, it becomes the responsibility of the officials to arrest those who have been charged with crimes in a public and duly-authorized hearing or court. We will point out that crimes did take place. If the court is duly authorized, then the contempt of that court is also an infraction, and you can be arrested for that as well. So anyone who does not show up can be in contempt of a duly-authorized, Tenth Amendment, constitutionally-mandated court. That's the best way to answer that.     MRS. RONDEAU: Do you have a mechanism to enforce it? DR. MANNING: We will present the information to the local officials.     MRS. RONDEAU: How many people do you expect to be there, not counting media? DR. MANNING: We have several people, more than 50, who have submitted their names to serve as jurors. I suspect that number will go well past 100 before we actually begin the process of selecting 12. We have other people also who have volunteered to participate in the trial: stenographers, artists, technicians ­ a large number in those areas. In terms of observers and those who will march around Columbia University, the Columbia march and the trial will happen in tandem, so we will start each day with a march around the compound of Columbia University. It will have the biblical basis of the Joshua march around the city of Jericho. We will do it by that example and then come back to the courtroom, which is only seven blocks from Columbia. The trial will start each day about 11:00, because it will take us about an hour or so to do the march around the campus.   How many people participate in total is anybody's guess all I know is that we're getting a flurry of activity and information and registration of people who have stated that they are going to be here. I suspect we're going to see thousands upon thousandsI estimated at one point 30,000I really don't know.     MRS. RONDEAU: When will you finish selecting the jurors? DR. MANNING: That is a matter of whether or not Columbia and/or Obama will send defense attorneys to make an attempt to represent themselves, so it's hard to say. A jury selection process could go for a day and a half or two days, perhaps.     MRS. RONDEAU: So people might arrive there thinking that they're going to be on the jury, and that might not be the case. DR. MANNING: They have to be here on the morning of the 14th and they have to register well in advance. There's a registration log in at our website where jurors can log in and register. But they will have to be here on the morning of the 14th in the courtroom in order to be a part of the jury.     MRS. RONDEAU: And then you'll start selecting jurors just as any other grand jury would? DR. MANNING: Yes.     MRS. RONDEAU: During the trial, do you expect that evidence will come out that specifically points to Obama being ineligible for the presidency, or is your evidence focused strictly on the Columbia University issue? DR. MANNING: The trial, at present, is being structured by me, as a prosecutor, in three phases. Phase One will demonstrate unequivocally with proof, with documentation, with statements, with a plethora of evidence that Obama is indeed not a natural born Citizen. That would be the objective, and we will have evidence that will substantiate that at least 12 different acceptable ways. From there, we will demonstrate that since he isn't natural born, he violates the U.S. Constitution. That's No. 1.   The second stage of the trial will demonstrate that the alleged Columbia years were not spent at Columbia University and the issuance of the degree all over the place demonstrates that Obama did not attend Columbia in a traditional or non-traditional, satellite or correspondence course. He was not enrolled in any of those courses. We will demonstrate the type of program that Columbia had and the requirements for a political science major to complete and that Obama did not participate at that level, yet he was issued a degree. We have the documentation at Stage 2 of the trial to demonstrate that both Columbia and Obama were in a criminal conspiracy to issue and to accept, respectively, knowing that he had not completed the required courses to have done so.     MRS. RONDEAU: Was Columbia paid off? DR. MANNING: They were certainly compensated for their efforts; "paid off" might not be the appropriate term. The third segment will be to demonstrate that if Obama was not at Columbia for two solid years, then where was he? and why was he? which would introduce how he was first approached and why Columbia was approached, and we're going to go through all of the evidence that Obama has presented, which is scant. Columbia has produced absolutely nothing to validate any reason to give him a degree in light of all the questions that were raised about his non-attendance there. Then we're going to move to demonstrating the CIA involvement, the Afghanistan involvement, the Patrice Lamumba School in Moscow, how that entire area works and what Obama's and the CIA's roles were during those years.     MRS. RONDEAU: So you will cover a lot of ground during those 5-6 days. DR. MANNING: Yes, we plan to do it as efficiently as we possibly can; we just wonder whether we'll have enough time, because some of this could take 3-4 days on its own.     MRS. RONDEAU: And you have paper documentation of all of this? DR. MANNING: Yes, we do.     MRS. RONDEAU: How many private investigators did you use? DR. MANNING: We used only three, not including myself. With me, that makes four. One of them is a trained attorney.     MRS. RONDEAU: Are you able to announce the names of the lawyers and judge who may be presiding, prosecuting or defending during the trial? DR. MANNING: I would not want to release that information at present.     MRS. RONDEAU: If for some reason on the 19th you have not finished presenting all of the evidence, is there a mechanism to extend the trial, or does it have to be done within those six days? DR. MANNING: We are going to approach this matter, if the attorneys for the defense show up, using reasonable and fair procedures that both the defense and the prosecution can agree upon; that's generally how it's done. The defense could spend four days defending one issue that I bring up, so this trial could last for a month. If it did, then of course both parties would then have to agree to let the trial run its course. If we get into a contest between the prosecution and the defense attorneys and we recognize that even with the selecting of a jury and the presentation of the prosecution's case, we've exhausted the first 5-7 days, I think it would be agreeable to both the American people and the people involved to do what every other trial does: let it run its course, and when it's complete, it's complete. We have put the parameters of the trial based on the march around Columbia University at seven days, but that certainly is not a hard and fast rule.     MRS. RONDEAU: At this point, do you know if Obama is aware that this is going to take place? DR. MANNING: Well, he has been served, as has Columbia University. We have talked with the officials from New York City's police department about it, and they are in great deliberations about it as we speak. I am absolutely confident that he is aware that the trial has been set.     MRS. RONDEAU: Has there been any response from the White House or any defense attorneys for him? DR. MANNING: None.     MRS. RONDEAU: You may have recently read that attorneys for Rod Blagojevich, the former Illinois governor whom you mentioned a few minutes ago, have subpoenaed Obama to testify at his trial which is expected to start June 3. The Post & Email just published a story on it. Do you think that what Blagojevich contends, that Obama is vital to the case because he has different information from what has been presented, is true, and that Obama could be guilty of crimes regarding the selling of the Senate seat? DR. MANNING: I am convinced that Blagojevich knows of Obama's crimes, and to subpoena Obama for his trial is an act which is probably as confident as my act of bringing Obama to trial. I think Rod Blagojevich may be a bit of an odd person in many ways, but I think he knows that Obama has committed crimes and that he has the leverage to use that knowledge in the appropriate way. Why he did not use it to maintain his governor's seat could be a matter of the federal investigation and his own crimes, but I am confident that he knows Obama has committed crimes.   I did read that Blagojevich has subpoenaed Obama, but I also read that there was a mistake in the release of seven documents that were supposed to have been sealed regarding Obama and for whatever reason were mistakenly released in the process. Actually, I don't think they were mistakenly released; I think they were leaked. I think that's a tactic that Obama uses quite often, leaking information. I think he's going to do the same thing now: rather than appearing for the trial, I think he's going to try to leak his way out of it. I've subpoenaed Rod Blagojevich because I know that he is absolutely integral to information about Obama, and at the appropriate time, we'll use it. I think right now, other than Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, and Tony Rezko, too, by the way, who has been shuffled around throughout the correctional system for years and has not been sentenced - that's unheard-of. It's absolutely incredible that this man has not yet been sentenced, obviously because he hasn't worked out a deal with Blagojevich and Obama. I wish I could subpoena Tony Rezko, but I'm certainly going to get Blagojevich here. I think he might come. More than anybody else, I think Blagojevich might show up.     MRS. RONDEAU: Have you heard anything from him? DR. MANNING: Not a word.     MRS. RONDEAU: Is there any evidence that gives you the idea that he might come? DR. MANNING: No.     MRS. RONDEAU: Regarding accommodations for those who will be coming to New York, have you made package arrangements available? DR. MANNING: We've listed some hotels to give people a general sense of the area as well as travel companies such as Expedia, Priceline.com, and all those places which can help people to get into a room and get comfortable.   The week prior to the trial, we will put up a pictorial of the area and a schedule of events right down to the last detail. All of that will be made available so that when people finally do arrive in New York, they will be able to go through the pictorial and won't be lost about anything regarding the trial or the march.     MRS. RONDEAU: What will you be doing between now and the trial? DR. MANNING: At the present time, we are structuring the flow of information and the idea of what we want to see as jurors. Our next step within the next couple of days is to begin to reach out to the Harlem community. As you know, this is happening in Harlem. We have 2000-3000 people, at the very least, expected to march through the streets of Harlem, all coming from a conservative, Anglo-Saxon background. Therefore, we want to make sure that we have done our homework in the community, first of all, by informing the community that the people will be coming and for the businesses, the restaurants, the shops, souvenir places, to be prepared to receive this extra flow of business. We want to at least offer that as an olive branch to the community. We also are taking measures to make sure that we reach out to the community leaders so that the people who are integral to the community will recognize that this is simply a matter of justice that needs to take place. That way, there will not be any disrespect for either group that will be in the community at the time.   Because we believe that a large number of people coming will be middle-aged to elderly people, we want to make sure that because they will not be able to get into the church but will be seated outside, there will be comfortable seating for everybody, refreshments, water - we're contacting several of the major bottling companies to get involved in the process and a number of other people who will be integral to making comfortable the days during which people will be sitting and watching the trial on a big screen. I think our major efforts over the next couple of weeks will be to get the community ready to receive this, and we want the community very much involved in the process.     MRS. RONDEAU: Would you say that most of the people in your immediate community are or were Obama supporters? DR. MANNING: I would say that for the most part, they still are, but not at the level at which they were the kind of energy that was generated during the campaign is not there now. People were excited because of the campaign and its potential. They've had a year, nearly two years now, to digest Obama's alleged and illegal presidency, and some of that energy has dissipated, and for the most part, they would never be as excitable as they were during the campaign.     MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think a lot of them are disappointed in Obama, or do you think they sense that something could be wrong with his legitimacy? DR. MANNING: I think both. I think perhaps they're willing to sweep it under the rug, and perhaps many have said, "Well, you know, if there's something wrong with his legitimacy, he's not the first; think about who Bush was," and a number of other things. But it has lessened some of his support; it is not as staunch as it was, and I don't think it will ever be again, quite frankly.     MRS. RONDEAU: Is that true of members of your church who were avid Obama supporters? DR. MANNING: Yes, it does. The passing of time and the fact that he has not met any of those expectations as far as the black community is concerned have caused their support to wane. I think the best way to express that is that many people, even on the very liberal far left, are disappointed with Obama. They thought that he was really going to demonstrate a change that they could sink their teeth into and be proud of. He's disappointed them. And that's understandable and appreciable from a political point of view that is legitimate. The black people are equally disappointed, not so much because they had a clear outline of what they thought Obama would be as a black president; I'm not sure what they expected, but they're certainly not getting it, or anything near it, and they know it in their hearts.     MRS. RONDEAU: So people are starting to understand that he didn't follow through on what he said he would do. DR. MANNING: Or become what they thought he would become. People are floating statements around now that there's not much difference between Obama and Clarence Thomas or Obama and George Bush, and that is damning! People are writing that and making valid points, that Obama is continuing the Bush doctrine. That's unheard-of, but it's happening!     MRS. RONDEAU: After the trial, will there be a way to get the information to every single American, particularly if they don't have internet access? DR. MANNING: Because the courts have prevented the evidence that I will be presenting at this trial from being presented and deliberated on, they have routinely stated that those who made claims against Obama have no standing, so therefore, the information has been muted, for the most part. The psychological effect of that is when the courts made such statements regarding that and all the attorneys: Phil Berg, Orly Taitz, and the other people who did not understand the procedure thought the courts had ruled against the information. The courts never ruled against the validity of the information; they ruled against the opportunity to bring that information to the courts that it might become public knowledge.   Our advantage here is that we can then demonstrate that a constitutionally-mandated, Tenth Amendment court hearing has taken place, the evidence has been presented in a credible way that is irrefutable, and there is documented evidence that crimes have taken place at that point, America is going to have to step back and ask herself a question: What should we do about this? Should we disavow the right of the people to call a court, a grand juryby the way, grand juries are not a part of the government, but yet, certainly are mandated by the Constitution, and as such, on a matter as integral, as important, as all-encompassing as the highest office of our land, are we simply going to ignore the evidence as if it never took place? I don't think so.   The other thing is that I am convinced that, knowing the media, they know that this is going on, because the New York City Police Department is making statements such as, "We can't handle seven days of people marching around; we don't have the resources to do that; we can't shut down the streets for seven days." Now they're going to have to do it, but the Mayor has to make the final decision on this. So the media has been informed. I guarantee you: one of the mainstream media-types is going to break this story, because they recognize that if they don't break it, someone's going to break it before them trust me, by the time the gavel falls, they'll be all over the place.     MRS. RONDEAU: So you do think that the mainstream media, television, perhaps, will report this? DR. MANNING: I'm confident of it; they'll have to. You can't have white people marching through Harlem and the media not report it. I don't care how much they love Obama.     MRS. RONDEAU: If after the trial you find Obama guilty of something and present it to law enforcement, is there any way they can tell you that you don't have standing? DR. MANNING: Not unless they're willing to disavow the Constitution. If I approached a local precinct or district attorney and said, "I am a witness to a crime; I saw this man sell drugs and then stab the person he sold the drugs to, and here's the evidence," if the district attorney says, "You don't have standing, and I'm not going to act upon that," then he is negligent in his duty and can be prosecuted himself. This trial will bring forth testimony of crimes that have taken place, and at that point, somebody has to arrest somebody.     MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think that will be an outcome of the trial? DR. MANNING: If it's not, then the failure to arrest will be a bigger issue. The matter here is that the authorities are going to have to act one way or the other. The matter cannot be kept away from the press. I have likened this to an open door with Columbia University. There is no way that this matter will not become a national and international event. We have international people coming to the trial who will be reporting about it in their nations. The only way that they can stop this information from coming out is to stop the trial. It will have to be reported and acted upon unless they want to go further and state, "Because of our complicit criminal activity, we're going to ignore the constitutional mandate allowing people to form a trial and to bring due process to the American people."     MRS. RONDEAU: So you think this will be the catalyst to get law enforcement to act on this? DR. MANNING: I'm very confident that it will.     MRS. RONDEAU: Is there anything else you would like to say about the trial and everything that has led up to it? DR. MANNING: People in government at present, whom I call collectively the "2008 political class" such as John McCain, Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, the Clinton's, Dr. Howard Dean ­ all these people know of Obama's ineligibility. There are people now in the media, Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck (whose statement in particular of "Well, if it was proven that he was ineligible, it would tear the nation apart" makes him a part of the 2008 political class along with all the others), who know that Obama is not eligible and that he is an illegal alien, and they know that he cannot defend himself against such a trial as this. The excuse passed around in board rooms and situation rooms and think tanks has been that if we expose him, it would tear the nation apart; black people in particular would rise up. And the thing I'd like to say to you, having said that, is this: that's a misnomer; it's a red herring. First of all, it is a very condescending, patronizing and disrespectful view of black people that their only recourse is to riot. It's disrespectful.   While I think that a number of things have remained the same or gotten worse in America, one of the things I can say as an alleged "black" pastor is that black people are not of the mindset of the 1960s when rioting was a solution to their problems. That is not the mindset of black people anymore, and they just don't have that energy or that understanding. They have become a little more politically savvy whereby they go to the polls, or they may march, but certainly not riot. That needs to be clear. But even were they of that mindset, I don't think now, after having observed Obama for a year and a half, that they would be willing to put all on the line to protect someone who can be demonstrated to be guilty and who has embarrassed them, and moreover, suckered them or pimped them and then given black people a black eye because here's this man who is allegedly the first black president but has a marred, if you will, dirty, dirty background and a dirty secret. I don't think they would defend that with riotous behavior.   Muhammed Ali, who was, in his heyday, even more popular than Obama is at present - I mean, he was just a very popular person - when his title was taken from him, there was not one riot in the street about that. When Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was assassinated, there was some setting of fires and some boisterous behavior, but even Robert Kennedy himself stated in a meeting in Indianapolis that he quelled a riot there when he made the announcement and blacks went home peacefully. So to think that to use a shotgun or to hold a shotgun to the head of the American people to say, "Let this man continue in office, albeit illegally; it is the better of the two evils" is a farce. It is absolutely the worst possible thing for America and for black people, in particular. Let justice be done and let America rise up and accept justice, and America will heal itself. So I think that people using the argument that exposing Obama destroys America is absolutely criminal and the worst kind of condescension toward black people.   MRS. RONDEAU: Do you think that's what McCain and the others have been doing? Is that their justification for not stepping forward and saying, "This man is not an Article II, Section I-eligible person?" DR. MANNING: Absolutely.     MRS. RONDEAU: The Post & Email very much appreciates your time, Dr. Manning, and we wish you the very best between now and the trial. DR. MANNING: God bless you.